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Scientists have calculated that termites alone produce ten times as much carbon dioxide as all the fossil fuels burned in the whole world in a year.

Pound for pound, the weight of all the termites in the world is greater than the total weight of humans.

Scientists estimate that, worldwide, termites may release over 150 million tons of methane gas into the atmosphere annually. In our lower atmosphere this methane then reacts to form carbon dioxide and ozone.

 

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~ We are a public benefit organisation ~
Fluoride Toxicology produces about 500
new publications per year. We present
just a few of the English ones below.

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MAIN POST ~ Part 1 of 2

Part 2 → HERE ←

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» Last update – 28th Aug. 2019  «

All our sites are regularly monitored for ‘Stealth Editing’.
An off-site back-up repository is regularly maintained.
We insert new info into these posts continually.

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Existing environmental legislation in Australia requires that any person, 
corporation or organisation carrying out an activity must take all reasonable
and practicable measures to prevent or minimise the potential for environmental
harm or pollution, having regard to the current state of technical knowledge
for the operation or activity and other relevant matters. !

How Many Australians Drink Fluoridated Water?

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Corrosion of Dental Amalgams by Fluorides

by – G.E. Stoner, S.E. Senti, & E. Gileadi.

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“Fluoride, AsbestosUraniumLead & Tobacco  (FAULT)
are multibillion dollar industries that have caused immeasurable
harm to humans who have recently discovered that decades of propaganda
claims that the products are “Safe and Effective” are demonstrably false.
Each of these industries has a history of denial of harm, suppression of
evidence, attempts to avoid litigation and compensation of victims.
In a last ditch attempt to retain public drinking water as a conduit
for the disposal of fluoride, an industrial waste product,
myth-mongers are attempting to promulgate the
new ’Big Lie’ that Fluoride is a nutrient.”
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The fetus the most vulnerable of our species to fluoride’s toxicity

↑↑  Studies funded by three U.S. government agencies: ↑↑ 
Institutes of Health, Environmental Protection Agency,
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Declan Waugh – NZ 2018
Environmental Scientist Declan Waugh presentation at Otago 2018

Dr Howard – NZ 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0o3kxZNXCw

Dr Connett – NZ 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uDvD5UcSwg

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Twenty Diseases related to Dental Fluorosis

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Dramatic Increases in Dental Fluorosis Point to
Widespread Fluoride Overexposure With Risk of Neurotoxicity

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A damning critique and analysis of the NHMRC’s
2017 ‘Sham’ review of  Water Fluoridation and
an appeal for a Royal Commission Inquiry:

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Well well well, – this is a bit of a back down !   ↓ ↓ ↓

WHO Extracts from – Environmental Health Criteria 227-Fluoride

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Professor Nicholas Buckley:
Somehow I got dragged into doing this expert panel.
~ Has he been handed a Poisoned Chalice ? ~

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    This Expert Health Panel for per- and poly-fluoroalkyl substances (PFAS) was established to advise the Australian Government (Senate Inquiry) on the potential health impacts associated with PFAS exposure and to identify priority areas for further research and to inform the National Health and Medical Research Council’s (NHMRC’s) per- and poly-fluoroalkyl substances – National Health Research Program.

The Panel Members are:

Chair: Professor Nick Buckley (University of Sydney)

Professor Malcolm Sim (Monash University)

Dr Ki Douglas (Douglas Consulting Australia)

Professor Helen Håkansson (International Rep. Karolinska Institutet).

The NHMRC, ADA, TGA and the AMA are openly hostile to any negative
…findings on account that they are historically locked into water fluoridation…
……Some panel members may also have preconceived ideas/commitments!

We at ‘Fluoridation Queensland’, are therefor not expecting a clear or
definitive answer soon, – but we hope we are wrong.  The trust of the
Australian public has been breached for too many years by them.

However, see  

The Queensland Government’s paper on this topic
plus our comments below

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You will need to scroll down one page. 

‘Management of Fire Fighting Foam Policy’

See page #10 of 81 ⇒ “…Fluorinated organic compounds have been a common ingredient in firefighting foams for many decades, being the key to the properties and effectiveness of some foams. There has been a growing awareness in recent times of the potential for very significant, long-term and widespread adverse human health and environmental effects of these compounds, with the result that this has brought them under particular scrutiny and has driven a reassessment of their use, fate, effects and the need for non-persistent alternatives…”

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 PFAS, PFOS, PFOA Contamination – A Problem For Everyone

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Dubbed The Forever Chemical

 PFAS don’t naturally break down in the environment

⇒ Understanding The PFAS Family Tree ⇐

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How PFAS Contamination is Affecting Area Property Values

Kyle P. Konwinski  &  Aaron M. Phelps

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 Water, Stroke & Heart Attacks – A short read

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Fluoridation Finished in Israel – Final

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Clean Drinking Water Out Of Thin Air

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Libya’s Great Man Made River

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 F. Webs Around The World

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Healthy Water

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Fluoride Free Australia – New Post

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GenX- Frequently Asked Questions

‘GenX’ is a trade name for a ‘NEW’ man‐made, unregulated
chemical used in manufacturing a non-stick coatings
and is  fluoride based – once again!

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Fluoride and Novichok

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→  TGA Updates – July 2019 + Interpretation ←

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FLUOROSIS  INDIA – and some ways to control it

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Ass. of American Physicians & Surgeons Inc.-1958 Resolution

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 fluorosis in India  HERE  HERE  Fluoride Sri Lanka 

 The Manchester Guardian, July 15, 1998 

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Our government agencies policies,
are destroying the health of our children.
– Dr. David Kennedy ↓ ↓ ↓

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDAdh7y6Flw

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National Pollutant Inventory – Fluoride Emissions (Aust.)

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Fluoride The Emerging Contaminant
With Unpredictable And Unintended Consequences:

Trillions of dollars have been spent over the last sixty years
promoting artificial water fluoridation around the world.
Yet very few countries adopted the practice and
many of these have since discontinued it,
–  with NO increase in tooth decay.

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     The money spent on fluoridation and its promotion should have been spent on research, into nutrition: vitamin K2 (Interview – Dr. Goodman on Vitamin K2 and Its Benefits) the anti-caries properties of  vanadium,  strontium 38 (NOT strontium 90), molybdenum, phosphorus, calcium, magnesium, ubiquinone, ‘good’ mouth bacteria (oral microbiological antibodies), and finally the ultimate stimulation of gums to grow more teeth, – tissue engineering.  The harmful implications of poor nutrition in association with fluorides, as well as the damaging effects of  lead, (old roofs and solder as used on rainwater tanks and old water mains [Australia] ), Copper, Cadmium,  Aluminium, Arsenic, Beryllium, Chromium, Iron, Mercury, and Nickel have been virtually ignored - ‘Multiple Fluoride Inter-reaction Syndrome’.

Over 400 medications increase tooth decay.

Fluorides bestow no biological benefit.
Fluoridation is an error from a previous century.
Fluoridation received no pre-market safety evaluation.
Fluoridation is NOT supported by all dentists and doctors in Australia.
Fluoridation is the result of an unholy alliance between the
Medical profession and the pharmaceutical industry.

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Prenatal Fluoride Exposure & Outcomes in 4-6 Year Olds-Mexico

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 Some Factors Often Overlooked In Fluoridation Research

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Melissa Gallico
A former FBI analyst & military intelligence officer. 

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Melissa Gallico – Fluoridation Exposed

Much more → HERE

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Calcium fluoride can be found naturally in some waters.
It is almost insoluble and is not easily absorbed,
but it is a problem. See   HERE   

The chemicals mostly used to fluoridate drinking water
are toxic waste products derived from the manufacture of
phosphate fertiliser.  These chemicals do NOT exist in nature.

Global fluorochemical sales amount to more than US$15 billion a year.

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“Fluorocarbon Gases Are Generally Greenhouse Gases
⇒ with global-warming potentials 100 to 23,000 times ⇐
that of carbon dioxide. Organofluorine compounds
persist in the environment due to the strength
of the carbon–fluorine bond…”
[Co2 is consumed by vegetation on land and in the ocean.]
All the solar system is also heating up.]
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Fluorine is a chemical element with the symbol F. and atomic number of 9.
It is the lightest halogen and exists as a highly toxic pale yellow diatomic
gas at standard conditions. As the most electronegative element, it
is extremely reactive: almost all other elements, including gold
and some noble gases, form compounds with fluorine.
See this ‘Interactive Periodic Table’ »→ FLUORINE ←« Recommended

[ Go to "DEMO" bottom left ]

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FLUORIDATION & HUMAN RIGHTS

     No Corporation, Government – Local – State – Federal [or the U.N.] has the right to add chemicals to the drinking water designed to treat human beings (e.g. fluoride, with proposals for lithium and statins) as opposed to treating the water to make it safe or palatable to drink (e.g. chlorine, albeit there are safer ways to disinfect water –  Ozone ↔ Ozone  &  Chlorine dioxide ).
Treating human beings in this way violates the individual’s right to informed consent to medical treatment.  Fluoridation is illegal, see Belgium, and Israel.

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See also Everett Dean Martin   ‘The Behaviour of Crowds’.

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~ ESSENTIAL READING FOR DENTISTS AND DOCTORS ~

A short good read m
 A MIXTURE OF DOZENS OF ELEMENTS & COMPOUNDS

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US National Library of Medicine F. – extracts

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Fluoridation =

»→  Unholy Water  ←«

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Delayed Eruption France 1999

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Bone/joint problems-Fluorosis

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Fluoridation & The Phosphate Connection

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Economic Motives Behind Water Fluoridation Dr. F.B.Exner

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Queensland Councils That Have Rejected Fluoridation – So Far

 

TGA Updates – July 2019 + Interpretation

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A)  The evidence IS that fluorides are a hazard to ALL living tissue.
B)  Fluoridation is promotion by endorsement – asinine science.
C)  Fluoridation is corporate $cience, DDT, asbestos and tobacco $cience.
D)  International research now reveals fluorides damage teeth.
E)  Not a single biological process in the human body requires fluoride.
F)  Fluoridation is a failure to apply the Precautionary Principle.
G)  Fluorides bio-accumulate.
H)  A multi-million dollar U.S. National Institutes of Health (NIH) – funded study, found no relation between prevention of tooth decay and the amount of fluoride ingested by children, only evidence of damage.
I)  Fluoridation is a violation of the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the 2000.
J)  Water fluoridation is mass medication without prescription. The dosing of public water supply with fluoride is default medication, since we have to deliberately avoid it if we do not want it.
A person’s daily intake of fluoride simply from drinking an average quantity of fluoridated tap water, fluoridated bottled water, and beverages produced or prepared with fluoridated water and bathing in it can easily exceed the threshold for what your pharmacist would rightly demand a prescription.
K)  Most of the industrialized world abandoned or dismissed this pseudo-scientific practice decades ago, along with DDT, mercury, lead, thalidomide and asbestos usage.
L)  The addition of any drug to the public water supply should be beyond the power of any government.  No government has any right, with or without a vote, to decide what drugs you must take or what foods you must, or must not eat.
M)  The fluoride in toothpaste (and mouth rinses) and drinking water is medication.
N)  Fluoridation has its origin NOT in dentistry – but the nuclear industry  ↔  HERE.
O)  CAUTION- ‘Singulair’ (montelukast) may be a bad combination with fluorides (Fluticasone Propionate, toothpaste, or city fluoridated water, especially for children). Singulair also has serious side effects, including suicidal thoughts and actions, depression, aggressive behaviour, hallucinations, sleep walking, tremor and more. A study published in Environmental Research in 2003 suggested that even low levels could reduce the amount of available testosterone.
P)  The fluoride chemical added to water is an unprocessed, toxic industrial waste-product from the pollution scrubbers of the phosphate fertiliser industry  (Mostly from China which does not fluoridate).
Q)  Collagen synthesis has been shown to be impeded by fluoride by the work of B. Uslu, Andola School of Medicine, Eskisehir, Turkey.
R) At least 63 human, animal and plant enzymes are for the most part destroyed or modified by fluorides.
S)  Sodium fluoride is an experimental tumorigen [deliberately used to cause cancer in laboratory experiments] and teratogen [deliberately used to cause monstrous abnormalities in lab experiments].
T)  Swallowing fluoride displaces iodine from your thyroid. Iodine and fluoride are both halogens. Without iodine, you cannot make active thyroid hormones, raising your risk for hypothyroidism.
U)  Fluoride is a mitochondrial poison that sabotages your mitochondria’s ability to create cellular energy in the form of ATP, and an enzymatic reactor, meaning it reacts with enzymes in your body.
V)  Russian scientists demonstrated that fluorides demyelinates the brain and nerves.
W) Fluoridated Salt is being used to overcome resistance to water fluoridation.
X)  Only about .5% of fluoridated tap water is is use for drinking, most goes down the drain, into our rivers and some times out to sea to the coral reefs - with fluoridated toothpaste !
Y)  Yiamouyiannis  ← Watch, Part 1 ~ G r e a t   v i e w i n g !
Z)  damaging effects of fluoride.  ← watch part 2.

Also watch →  HERE  ← only 4 mins.

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WE BELIEVE:

The water supplier has a duty of care which includes 
informing customers of any risks to consumers from their products.
According to the scientific reports on our web sites, university 
libraries,
and international policies, we believe that the dangers of fluorides
and your own ‘Code of Conduct’, commit you to alerting your
customers to the dangers of fluorides in your product.

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“…We appreciate the unique and important role Queensland Urban Utilities’
plays in the community, and the need to uphold our customers’ confidence in us
to deliver a safe, clean and reliable water supply and sewage service…”

Extract from → ‘Queensland Urban Utilities – Code of Conduct’ 

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 Pink Salt may be a fluoridation con!

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PFASs found in 56 percent of  wrappers used for desserts and breads.

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Queensland Water Fluoridation Bill 12 March 2008

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 Fluoridation Finished in Israel – Final

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THE DEATH OF FLUORIDATION

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AUSTRALIA IS IN CRISIS – Diane D. Buckland

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1)  TOOTHPASTE

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2)  FLUORIDATION & TEETH

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3)  FLUORIDATION & DENTISTS

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4)  MERCURY-FREE DENTISTRY

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5)  THE TOWNSVILLE REPORT

A Critical Review
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6)  CROPS AND PLANTS SENSITIVE TO FLUORIDES

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7)   ANIMALS SENSITIVE TO FLUORIDES INCLUDING PETS

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8)   THE DISAPPEARING SPARROW & FLUORIDES

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 ↓  ↓  ↓ Just a few of them ↓  ↓  ↓

9) >>>  FLUORIDATION ROGUES’ GALLERY  <<<

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10)  FLUORIDE-VIT.C-PAULING-STONE-KALOKERINOS +

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11)  FLUORIDATION AND CORROSION

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12) →  FLUORIDATION NEWS  ←

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13)  RESEARCH PAPERS – A –

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14)  RESEARCH PAPERS – B –

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15)  FLUORIDATION – NEW RESEARCH PAPERS

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16)  FLUORIDATION BOOK LIST + WEB SITES

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17)  FLUORIDATION AND LEAD

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18)  A new post will arrive here soon!

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19)  FLUOROSIS – AND WAYS TO CONTROL IT

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20)  FLUORIDE & THE ZINC LINK – Leo Spira

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21)  FLUORIDATION – LEGAL WINS AND ARGUMENTS

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22)  NO FLUORIDE — “SCOTLAND THE BRAVE “

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23)  PROFESSIONALS AGAINST FLUORIDATION

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24)  FEDERAL HEALTH MINISTER SAYS NO TO FLUORIDATION

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25)  CANCER IN BASEL SWITZERLAND DUE TO FLUORIDATION

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26)  FLUORIDATION – LEGAL  LETTERS

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27)  FLUORIDE/IODINE & BREAST HEALTH

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28)  FLUORIDE THE NEXT ASBESTOS

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29)  FLUORIDATION & MONEY

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30)   FLUORIDATION & CRIME

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31)   Fluoridation Targets Black Americans,
Indigenous Australians & Shri Lankans

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32)   FLUORIDATION & BOTTLED WATER

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33)   FLUORIDE – DEATH IN THE AIR

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34)  THE SECRET WAR – FLUORIDE POLLUTION – Dr.  Smith

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35)  Fluoride-Chronic Fatigue Syndrome +

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36)  FLUORIDE MAY BE YOUR NEXT CONTRACEPTIVE?

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37)  INDUCED APOPTOSIS IN HUMAN LUNG CELLS

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38)  FLUOROQUINOLONES-DEADLY ANTIBIOTICS

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39)  FLUORIDE USED FOR INSECTICIDE & RAT POISON

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40)  HOW TO MINIMIZE FLUORIDE DAMAGE

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41)  DECOMMISSIONING F. PLANTS Qld.

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42)  SARIN IN SYRIA

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43)  CHLORINE IS TOXIC

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↓  ↓  ↓  ↓  ↓ ”F. The protected pollutant.” ↓  ↓  ↓  ↓  ↓

44)  >>>  FLUORIDES & CLIMATE CHANGE +  <<<

↑  ↑  ↑  ↑  ↑  ↑  ↑  ↑  ↑  ↑

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45)  FLUORIDE POLLUTION & COAL BURNING - CHINA

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46)  FLUORIDES, THE DEADLY TOXIN WITHIN

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47)  F. THE PINEAL GLAND –  Comments From Researchers

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48)   Fluoridation and Polonium – 210

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49)  FLUORIDATION, TEETH & STRONTIUM 90

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  ↓  ↓  ↓  ↓ This is where the F. lie started. ↓  ↓  ↓  ↓  

50)  THE NUCLEAR INDUSTRY AND FLUORIDATION

 The A Bomb & The Fluoride Connection 

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51) CORROSION ASSOCIATED WITH FLUORIDATION-OAK RIDGE

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52)  Chlorine V Chlorine Dioxide – Coral Bleaching

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53)   Hazardous Chemicals & Safe Work

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54)  INFANT DEATH SYNDROME by Sarah C. Comiher

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55)  F. Targets Black Americans & Australian Aboriginals

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56)  Evidence Shows Fluoridation A Danger

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57)  Fluoride Is Damaging To The Thyroid

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58)   Fluoride & The Phosphate Connection

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59)  FLUOROSIS OF SHEEP IN QUEENSLAND (Gov. Doc.)

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60)  Fluoride – The Aging Factor

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61)   FLUORINATED PHARMACEUTICALS

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62)  BABIES-VICTIMS OF FLUORIDATION – Time to Stop

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63  HISTORY OF FLUORIDE IN CAVITY PREVENTION

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64)  INDUCED APOPTOSIS IN HUMAN LUNG CELLS

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65)   GREEN WATER

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 LINKSto others around ...

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~  Dr. Geoff  N. Pain ~

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Pain in the Gut – Fluoride Damage to the Gastrointestinal Tract

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Fluoride Causes Heart Disease, Stroke & Sudden Death

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Links To More Of His Research

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Global Decline in Tooth Decay correlates with reduced Airborne Lead
(Pb) but water Fluoridation prevents further progress.

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Ceasing Fluoridation is the honourable, clever and economic thing to do.

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Fluoride doped hydroxyapatite in soft tissues and cancer. A literature review.

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   Calcium fluoride – CaF2 – occurs naturally, although mostly in relatively small amounts, in some rivers, wells and underground waters – as does arsenic. However this ‘natural’ fluoride can cause health problems. Excessive fluoride concentrations have been reported in the ground-waters of more than 20 countries including in India where 19 states are facing acute fluorosis problems. Large numbers of people in Japan, China, India, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Mexico and Africa develop dental fluorosis, a biomarker for crippling skeletal fluorosis and other fluoride induced health abnormalities. Skeletal fluorosis is a crippling bone disease caused by fluoride exposure. Millions of people world-wide are afflicted. It also affects animals foraging on contaminated feed (air pollution) and consuming water from some deep underground sources, and fallout from volcanoes.  See → Fluorosis & Dinosaurs !!

Fluorine (F.), a member of the halogen family, is the most electronegative and reactive of all the elements of Periodic Table.  Elemental fluorine does not exist in nature but forms inorganic and organic compounds called fluorides representing approximately 0.06–0.09% of the Earth’s crust.

China indicates that coal-burning alone led to 18,138,780 cases of dental fluorosis and 1,594,799 cases of skeletal fluorosis. Coal-burning fluorosis in china is therefore one of the most serious health problems resulting from environmental pollution in the world.
See also - Fluoride, Lead And Pipes.

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Dental fluorosis ← [MORE IMAGES] indicates the deposition of fluoride in the bones – skeletal fluorosis, causing brittleness in later life, – especially hip fractures in humans. It can occur after teeth formation, but will NOT be recorded on the teeth after they are formed. The severity is relative to the nutritional status of the person or animal..Vitamin C, zinc, calcium, magnesium and iodine being main considerations.

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  FLUOROSIS AND THE WAYS TO CONTAIN IT  

Dental fluorosis is a biomarker of systemic over-exposure to fluorides. It occurs during teeth formation where fluorides are in air, water, food, medications, industrial and agricultural chemicals some underground waters and volcanic emissions.  However, this over-exposure will NOT be recorded on the teeth if the fluoride exposure occurs after the teeth have been formed.

F. delay of eruption            More on delayed eruption → HERE

THE ADA IS A PROFESSION IN DENIAL — SUFFERING
  Normalcy Bias  ←◊→ DENTISTS & FLUORIDE 

F. ADA

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FLUORIDES KILL:

MOULDS, PLANTS, INSECTS, ANIMALS, HUMANS AND ARE VERY CORROSIVE.

     Fluorides kill rodents, insects, (BEES) wild dogs, termites, fleas, plants [weeds], fungi and humans [including those who promote fluoridation]. Chronic poisoning, from most toxic agents is rarely diagnosed by physicians in the initial stages. Most systemic poisons induce vague, subtle symptoms before the appearance of features characteristic of a particular kind of poisoning.  See our post → FLUORIDES AND ANIMALS INCLUDING OUR PETS. For instance, the radial nerve paralysis or the lead line on the gums which are typical of lead poisoning are preceded by numerous vague symptoms such as lack of appetite, general fatigue, gastric pains, and bowel disorders. Similarly, the bone changes characteristic of chronic cadmium poisoning become apparent only after a prolonged, slowly progressive illness with changes in kidney function…  George L. Waldbott MD.

Chronic exposure to low doses of fluoride cause progressive health problems, larger doses derived from accidents, equipment failure, (terrorists – sarin gas), or incompetence at water treatment works can cause acute toxicity resulting in illness, disability or death. Such incidents are known but are under-reported, or played down, since authorities have a vested interest in suppressing this information, but there have been many over the years. For example, in Hooper Bay, Alaska, 260 people were poisoned and one man died after drinking water contaminated with 150 ppm of fluoride. The accident was attributed to poor equipment and an unqualified operator. Was this a fluke? No not at all. The US Centre for Disease Control has recorded a number of such incidents where human error or equipment failure resulted in a toxic dose of fluoride. (Brisbane, May 2009.)

See also → FLUORIDE FOAM SPILLED AT BRISBANE AIRPORT ENTERS RIVER ← 2017

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‘The History of Fluorine, Fluoride and Fluoridation’
by Peter Meiers – Germany http://www.fluoride-history.de

Qld. Gov. Research

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> >  Fluorosis of Sheep in Queensland  < <

This revealing research was funded by the Queensland Government.
These three booklets contain, maps, photos, and x-ray images.
This Government funded research was responsible for Queensland
being the last Australian state being tricked into water fluoridation.
May be a little slow to download. ]

a short good read

 Keep 32 molecule discovered, kills the bacteria that causes tooth decay

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FLUORIDE COMPOUNDS ARE: Bioaccumulating, carcinogenic, protoplasmic poisons and enzyme inhibitors. They inactivate over 62 enzymes. They are also teratogenic, phytotoxic, anticholinergic, neurotoxic, fetotoxic, clastogenic, thyrotoxic, mutagenic, and immuno-suppressive. Fluorides have a synergistic effect with other pollutants, including radioisotopes. They destroy vitamins and are mind-altering  allergens, cause arthritis,♠ and infertility,  Fluorides Are Corrosive♠ Skeletal fluorosis is often mis-diagnosed as arthritis.

Fluoride Reduced Contractile Function of the Heart in Response to Ischemic Stress

“Water Fluoridation – A Manual for Engineers & Technicians ” – U.S. Dept. of Health & Human Services May 1991

 EXTRACT- … Hydrofluosilicic Acid (pronounced Hy-dro-FLEW-oh-suh-lys-ik), also known as hexafluosilicic, siliconfluoric or fluosilicic acid (H2SiFs), is a 20 to 35 % aqueous solution with a formula weight of 144.08. It is a straw-coloured, transparent, fuming, corrosive liquid having a pungent odour and an irritating action on the skin. Solutions of 20 to 35% hydrofluosilic acid exhibit a low pH (1.2), and at concentrations of 1ppm can slightly depress the pH of poorly buffered potable waters. It must be handled with great care because it will cause a “delayed burn” on skin tissue. The average density of 23 % acid is 10.1 lbs./gal. Hydrofluosilicic acid (23%) will freeze at approximately 4 degrees F or 15.5 degrees C. It takes approximately 46 pounds (4.4gallons) of 23% acid to add 1ppm of fluoride to 1 million gallons of water…

PTD    →  Apoptosis  ♦

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RUSSIAN RESEARCH ON  APOPTOSIS AND FLUORIDE 

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Molecular Mechanisms of Cytotoxicity And Apoptosis Induced By
Inorganic Fluoride Norwegian Institute of Public Health ↓

FLUORIDE- INDUCED APOPTOSIS IN HUMAN EPITHELIAL LUNG CELLS

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See also → CHINESE STUDIES ON APOPTOSIS AND FLUORIDES  ←

 CELL DEATH: Normal cells have the ability to self destruct when they
become damaged or diseased. They undergo a process called apoptosis
in which cells break down and are disposed of by white blood cells.

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200 enzymes

Dr. Barry Commoner + 2 of his books.

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F. & Strontium 90

→   1958 Dr. Barry Commoner   ←

Brushing with Fluoride Can Give You a Radiant Smile:

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Other F. Apps

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TEN EIGHTY 1080 =  (Dingo Bait) – When ingested through baited food, the animal suffers a prolonged and horrific death. Herbivores take the longest to die – up to 44 hrs, while carnivores can take up to 21 hrs. Besides being tasteless, odourless, colourless and highly concentrated. 1080 has no antidote  →  A Murder Poison ? Oregon USA banned the use of 1080. The N.Z. Ministry of Health’s  limit for drinking water contamination by 1080, is two parts per billion. - Note - BILLION

TEN EIGHT ONE 1081 = Fluoroacetamide – FCH2CO2Na. is a rodenticide

CYCLOSARIN or GF (cyclohexyl methylphosphonofluoridate) is an extremely toxic substance used as a chemical weapon. It is classified as a weapon of mass destruction by the United Nations.

NOVICHOK is up to eight times more powerful than VX gas.

SARIN ◊ Isopropyl-Methyl-Phosphoryl-Fluoride (nerve gas) Sarin is also known as GB.   watch USA nerve gas stockpile.  →  Raised Questions – Idlib Chemical Weapons Attack ? 

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 BUY THE INGREDIENTS  HERE  Very cheap!

◊  SARIN IN SYRIA    HOWEVER, VERY, VERY COSTLY TO DISPOSE OF!

~   TOKYO  SUBWAY  SARIN  ATTACK – 20 March 1995   ~

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Kasumigaseki Station,
( 地下鉄サリン事件 Chikatetsu Sarin Jiken? )
One of the many stations affected during the attack.

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Fluoride-bearing Sarin was reportedly so strong,
❝ It made ‘Zyklon B’ look like underarm deodorant. ❞
The Dickinson Statement, “Health Consciousness”, October 1988 )

 July 2017 

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SOMAN = Picacolyl-Methyl-Phosphonos-Fluoride –
Both these ‘fluorides’ are nerve gases one drop of either if,
absorbed through the skin, will kill an adult human, in seconds.

The nerve-gas Soman (GD) is chemically similar to Sarin (GB), and they both contain fluorine. They are called “nerve” agents because they directly attack and destroy the nervous system. According to an EPA report  once you remove the fluorine from Sarin, all that remains is a non-toxic acid. In other words, fluorine–the same fluorine that is in our drinking water–is what gives sarin its deadly “kick”.

PFIB = Perfluoroisobutylene is produced as a main by-product in large quantities by the fluoropolymer industry. PFIB is about 10 times as toxic as phosgene. A highly toxic compound, even a brief inhalation of PFIB can result in acute lung injury, pulmonary edema and even death.

PFASs (polyfluoroalkyl), Peaslee and his research team found that fast-food wrappers pack a chemical punch - 56 percent of the wrappers used for desserts and breads, 38 percent of sandwich and burger wrappers and 20 percent in paperboard, the material that is often used to create burger boxes and other fast-food containers contained PFAS (Fluoride).

PROZAC = Fluoxetene Hydochloride is an anti-depressant. Prozac affects chemicals in the brain that may become unbalanced and cause depression, panic, anxiety, or obsessive-compulsive symptoms, also Lovan, Paxil & Luvox. These fluoride based (shooting) drugs with 28,000 known adverse reactions including suicide attempts. Prozac and its family of psychotropic drugs are at the heart of 99% off mass murder shootings. ❝ THE KILLER DRUG ❞  by Thomas G. Whittle and Richard Wieland   http://www.pnc.com.au/~cafmr/newsl/prozac.html

ROHYPNOL = Fluorinated Valium – ‘Roofies’ (Date Rape Drug) - Is more than twenty times as potent as normal Valium.

FLUNITRAZEPAM is a class of drugs depressing the central nervous system. ANTI-CHOLESTEROL DRUGS require fluorinated intermediates for their synthesis viz. Atorvastatin and Fluvastatin.

TRIFLUOROMETHYL  is a functional group in organofluorines  →  -CF3.

THE FOLLOWING DRUGS ALSO CONTAIN FLUORIDES: Diflucan fluconazole, – Flixonase or Flixotide (fluticasone), – Stelazine trifluoperazine, – Fluanxol or Depixol (flupenthixol) or Floxapen (flucloxacillin), – Penthrox and some Pediculicides. Also more→ HERE

The Deadliest Antibiotics ↔ Fluoroquinolones ↔ Recent Warnings from FDA on Fluoroquinolone → HERE

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The Anaesthetics:  ENFLURANE,  ISOFLURANE,  AND  SEVOFLURANE ♦ also contain fluorides which will produce high peak levels of fluoride in your blood for up to 24 hours.

            PLEASE NOTE:- If you are going to have surgery, ask your doctors if they can use a non-fluorinated anaesthetic, or at least take Vitamin. C  before and immediately after the operation.  These fluoride containing anaesthetics are NOT used in some countries. [♦ Because your memory may be compromised.] - The statement that ‘Granddad’s memory was never the same after his operation’ is occasionally heard and may reflect the lay person’s view of the above.

RISK OF DEMENTIA AFTER ANAESTHESIA & SURGERY

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CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME AND FLUORIDE

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  Fluoride enhances the activity of fungicides

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Mefloquine – Lariam, Mephaquin and Mefliam

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See Film Below

Fluoride Accident South Korea 
This Video runs for 65 seconds 
→  Hydrogen Fluoride kills 5   ←

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An estimated 8 tons of HF was released, 5 people including the 2 workers perished, 18 responders, workers, wound-up in the hospital, almost 3000 villagers from 2 villages downwind of the facility were treated for irritation, exposure.

Five workers were killed and 18 others were injured in the blast at chemical maker Hube Global at the Gumi National Industrial Complex in the industrial city, about 200 kilometers southeast of Seoul.

 The gas leak has cost factories in the industrial complex about 17.7 billion won (US$15.9 million) in lost production, officials said. Hundreds of angry villagers in Gumi who suffered after the massive gas leak moved to a safer region with some residents reporting blood in their saliva. About 110 elderly people in Bongsan-ri village evacuated to a facility about 10 kilometers away.
See also→ HERE

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Water-quality constituents from:
USGS National Stream Quality Accounting Network (NASQAN), 1996-2000 by

Valerie J. Kelly, Richard P. Hooper, Brent T. Aulenbach, and Mary Janet. The attached maps (USA) on this website show the distribution of  Trifluralin in the groundwater, and many other chemicals.  ↓ ↓  

.……………………………….. http://pubs.usgs.gov/wri/wri014255/results/detect.htm

Trifluralin is a commonly used pre-emergence herbicide. With about 14 million pounds used in the United States in 2001, it is one of the most widely used herbicides. Trifluralin is generally applied to the soil to provide control of a variety of annual grass and broadleaf weed species. It inhibits root development by interrupting mitosis, and thus can control weeds as they germinate. Trifluralin is used on Australia Wheat. 
(See ABC ‘Landline’ TV – 10/02/2013), Barley and ‘Canola’ (Rape Seed).

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Trifluralin banned in European Union since 20 March 2008
→  More on fluoride containing herbicides  ←

More info on this fluoride herbicide

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→  Isoxaflutole  ←

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SULFOXAFLOR  is a systemic insecticide which acts as an
insect neurotoxin and is a member a class of chemicals
called sulfoximines which act on the central nervous
system of insects. [Including BEES]
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  Fluoride enhances the activity of fungicides

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Mefloquine – Lariam, Mephaquin and Mefliam

→  →  HERE   ← ←

FLUORIDE – RAT POISON AND INSECTICIDES

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 Psychopharmacology of fluoride: a review

See ‘Second Look’ ↓ ↓ 
 http://www.slweb.org/ftrc.html

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 Original info

All fluoride compounds interfere with thyroid hormones and are factors in Hashimoto’s Disease. (Between 6% – 10% of Australians are affected by hypothyroidism which results in death after 10 to 15 years without medication.) The distortion of protein structure causes the immune proteins to fail to recognise body proteins, and so instigate an attack on them, which is Autoimmune Disease. Autoimmune Diseases constitute a body of disease processes troubling many thousands of people:

Rheumatoid Arthritis, Lupus Erythematosus, Asthma and Systemic Sclerosis are examples. Fluoride causes thyroid antibodies to be produced, which cause Thyroiditis resulting in the common hypothyroid disease, Hashimoto’s Disease and the hyperthyroidism of Graves’ Disease.

→ → F.-Iodine-Breast Health  ← ←

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→  You will not regret watching this  ←

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 …Of all the elements known so far to be essential for health, iodine is the most misunderstood and the most feared. Yet, it is by far the safest of all the trace elements known to be essential for human health. It is the only trace element that can be ingested safely in amounts up to 100,000 times the RDA… 

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F. & B :Iodine

   Guy E. Abraham MD.

Bromine, in its various forms, like fluorides are antagonists of iodine.
Bromines are found in many ‘soft drinks’, breads, vegetable oils and medications.
The Dead Sea has the highest bromide concentration of any large body of water in the world.
¿ Therefore ‘Dead Sea Salt’ may NOT be heathy. ?

Years of drinking sodas NEW→ [soft drinks containing bromides  (aviation fuel)] and brominated vegetable oils solidifies body fat resulting in ‘morbidobesity’  plus risk of “bromide intoxication – ‘brain fog’, schizophrenia, delirium, and hallucinations.

CASE REPORT: The patient presented with headache, fatigue, ataxia, and memory loss which progressed over 30 days. He consumed 2 to 4 L of cola containing brominated vegetable oil on a daily basis before presenting with these symptoms. His significantly elevated serum chloride, as measured by ion specific methods, and negative anion gaps were overlooked during a prior hospitalization and emergency department visits. A focal neurologic finding of right eyelid ptosis led to an extensive evaluation for a central nervous system lesion. The patient continued to deteriorate, until he was no longer able to walk. A diagnosis of severe bromism was eventually made and his serum bromide was confirmed at 3180 mg/L (39.8 mmol/L). Despite saline loading the patient failed to improve but subsequent hemodialysis dramatically cleared his clinical condition, and reduced his serum bromide levels. The unilateral eyelid ptosis, a rarely reported finding in bromism, also resolved with hemodialysis.
Potassium Bromate is a dough conditioner found in commercial bakery products and some flours.

 PROBLEMS WITH FIRE RETARDANTS  ↔  MORE

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FLUORIDE AND OBESITY:
 In view of the above it can be presumed that obesity would be augmented
in a fluoride environment. Australia is the most fluoridated country in the world.
Obesity and related problems are rife in Australia
– everyone points the finger at poor diet, but few researchers suspect
fluoride and bromide contamination of our diet are part of the complication.

Fluorides & bromides Impair Thyroid Function, & contribute to weight gain problems.

 “The Effects Of Fluoride On The Thyroid Gland”

by Dr Barry Durrant-Peatfield MBBS LRCP MRCS

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British Muslims against water fluoridation

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 Dr. Katme: “The final holy Book AL QUR’AN contains 63 verses on water and the Creator of All
told of the great gift for all life in the drinking water. It is holy and blessed and healthy and
safe. Any move to adulterate it is against the teachings of Islam and the Holy Scriptures.
– See more at: http://www.iatp.org/news/british-muslims-swell-opposition-to-water-fluoridation#sthash.3ClyDdhP.dpuf  → HERE ←

Dr A. Majid Katme (MBBCh, DPM) April 2013
Full text → HERE   More text  →  HERE

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→  UK Greens Against Blair  ←

→  Green Party Opposes Fluoridation  ←

→  Nine Green Parties Against Fluoridation ←

→  Green Party Canada and Australia – Fluoridation  ←

 The Australian Greens under
Di Natale are ‘out of step’ !

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 LOW-IODINE AND HIGH-FLUORIDE ENVIRONMENT – Cretinism

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» >  Dynamic Periodic Table  < «

 ↑  A good demonstration tool – Great for children. ↑

[ Go to bottom left 'demo' ]

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FLUORIDE / IODINE – IN A NUCLEAR DISASTER –

     ❝ … Many people are relatively deficient in iodine, and because of this they will readily absorb iodine from the environment. Our bodies are unable to recognize the difference between regular iodine and radioactive iodine. They will absorb them equally well.  So if you are deficient in iodine and a radioactive cloud passes by, [Japanese nuclear crisis] your body will tend to suck that radioactive iodine (Iodine-131 also called radioiodine) into your thyroid gland to fill up its iodine stores.

In an ideal situation you will have been taking adequate amounts of iodine from safe sources which will not only protect you from radioactive iodine but from environmental toxins that can poison your thyroid gland like Fluoride, Bromine and Chlorine.

If you have not been taking iodine and a radioactive cloud comes near your area then it would make sense to take large doses of prophylactic iodine to prevent your thyroid gland from absorbing the radioactive iodine. However it is important to understand that the large dose of [potassium iodide] only protects your thyroid for one to three days, no longer and it does absolutely nothing to protect you by detoxifying the radiation… ❞     Credit – Dr. Mercola

→ HOW TO BEST AVOID AND REMOVE FLUORIDES FROM YOUR WATER ←

Hazardous chemicals in your pizza box? Petition asks FDA to ban them.

     FIBROMYALGIA  (FMS)  ❝  It has been proposed that many chronic Pain-Fatigue Syndromes CFS, FMS, and PGS) are caused by magnesium deficiency plus concomitant fluoride excess (MDFE), and that these chronic illnesses present a major and growing worldwide public health concern due to decreasing intake of Mg and ever increasing levels of exposure to fluoride compounds used in industry, agriculture, medicine, [warfare,] and household and personal hygiene products.  ❞   –  Julia A. Laylander Journal of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, 1999

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COLLAGEN ~

F. & Collagen

WITHOUT THIS GLUE  –  YOU WILL COME UNSTUCK ! 

When collagen breaks down, tissues simply lose their substance, their framework. Fluoride dissolves the body’s glue simply by preventing new collagen from being formed. John Yiamouyiannis, PhD., gives a masterful explanation of this in his work: ‘Fluoride The Ageing Factor’.

… Not only is the collagen incorrectly formed, it is wrongly mineralized. Some collagen, like bones and teeth, should be mineralized in order to give it hardness. Other collagen structures, like ligaments, tendons and muscles, should not be mineralized, in order to keep them flexible and resilient. Fluoride mineralizes the tendons, and muscles and ligaments, making them crackly and painful and inflexible. At the same time fluoride interferes with mineralization of bones and teeth, causing osteoporosis and a premature health decline …

FLUORIDE PREMATURELY AGES THE BODY, Mainly By The Distortion Of Enzyme Shapes: When enzymes get twisted out of shape, they can’t do their jobs. This results in collagen breakdown, eczema, tissue damage, skin wrinkling, genetic damage, and immune suppression.
Practically any disease you can name may then be caused. All systems of the body are dependent upon enzymes. When fluoride changes the enzymes, this can damage: immune system, digestive system, respiratory system, blood circulation, kidney function, liver function, brain function and thyroid function. These distorted enzymes are proteins, but now they have become foreign protein, which we know is the exact cause of autoimmune diseases, such as lupus, arthritis, asthma, and arteriosclerosis. Fluoride also accumulates in the organelles of animal cells and shuts down enzyme activity. . . Fluoride as a factor in cataracts has been established by statistical studies of  Dr. Ionel F. Rapaport and confirmed by the research of  Dr. Burgstahler.

MORE COMPLICATIONS 

A GREAT VIDEO ⇒ HERE ⇐ A slow start but stay with it!

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 Vitamin C ameliorates fluoride in pregnant rats

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  Why Animals Don’t Get Heart Attacks … But People Do!

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Association of vascular fluoride uptake with vascular calcification and coronary artery disease.

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→  “Fluoride The Protected Pollutant”  ←

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WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT IS ADDED TO THE WATER WE DRINK!

Fluoridation involves the dumping of tones of industrial toxic
waste into the drinking water supply systems.

– Shanghai Mintchen Development Co. Ltd.

Phosphate fertilizer plants produce large quantities of toxic waste (silicofluorides, “SiFs” – fluosilicic acid or hexafluorosilicic acid, H2SiF6, and sodium fluosilicate or silicofluoride, Na2SiF6), which are recovered and require neutralization and disposal. Normally it would cost several thousand dollars per truckload to do this. But it has been contrived for these unrefined products, with their heavy metal contaminants, to be sold for injection into the water supplies of compliant cities and governments, under the guise of reducing dental decay. Industry thus benefits from not having to pay for it’s disposal, and at the same time makes a tidy profit on the sale of this waste. (ESTIMATED 2,000% PROFIT.) Water Fluoridation is often used to deliberately mask the damage caused by fluoride air pollution. Boyne Smelter Gladstone Queenslandindustrial air pollution

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  From Greenpeace International  ↓
The truth behind chemical fertilisers in China

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China exports F.

   Canadian Greens & Fluoridation   HERE    [ Australian Greens Take Note ]

Na2SiF6 is a chemical compound formed by two atoms of Sodium,
one atom of Silicon and six atoms of Fluorine.

Garbage into gold

These chemicals used to fluoridate drinking water are derived from the manufacture of phosphate fertiliser. Emissions are captured by the industry’s wet scrubbing systems in the smoke stacks.
This ‘product’ is not “fluorine” or “fluoride”.  It is a pollution concentrate. Fluoride is only approximately 19% of the total product captured – silicofluorides…

SILICOFLUORIDES ARE CONTAMINATED WITH A VARIETY OF TOXIC CHEMICALS:

Fluosiloxanes, Aluminium, Iron, Arsenic ♦,

Beryllium, Cadmium, Nickel, Lead ♥

Mercury, Chromium, Sulfides, & Radionuclides.

SEE ALSO → FLUORIDATION AND POLONIUM 210

 →  SODIUM FLUORIDE FROM CHINA CONTAMINATED  ←

with Aluminium, Strontium, Lead, Uranium, Tungsten, and Arsenic.

♦ ARSENIC IN DRINKING WATER

It has been suggested that the addition of contaminants like arsenic is insignificant, and it is not easily measured once diluted in drinking water. →  Arsenic is classified as a LEVEL ONE CARCINOGEN ↔ Even small amounts of arsenic, ←( EPA ) over a long time, can cause cancer of the bladder, kidney, lung or skin, previous research has found. There are NO known “safe” concentrations for Level One Carcinogens.

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A  USA COMPANY FINED $2 BILLION:

The company that gets rid of highly toxic wastes by selling them as a “product” to municipal water departments across the country as cheap fluoridation chemicals has been fined $2 billion for gross violations of the federal Resource Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA), reports the Fluoride Action Network (FAN).

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YOUNG MICE EXPOSED TO ARSENIC MORE SUSCEPTIBLE

TO INFLUENZA & RESPIRATORY INFECTIONS 

22 Aug 2013 

♥ LEAD AND FLUORIDES

→ unknown insoluble residue ←

 → FLUORIDE AND THE PHOSPHATE CONNECTION ←

THE TOXIC METAL CONNECTION

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FLUORIDE’S LINK TO CANCER ↓  by  DR. DAVID KENNEDY

http://www.youtube.com/watchv=um4baHtxs4

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4.  FLUORIDATION CHEMICALS:

This section applies to all fluoridation plants.
[Queensland] It provides information on the quality and storage of fluoridation agents:

4.1. Quality of fluoridation chemicals Performance criteria Minimum standards

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Must ensure impurities...

MS 4.1.1. • The water supplier must, on the receipt of each batch of fluoridation chemical, obtain a copy of the batch analysis certificate from the manufacturer, importer or supplier • If a batch analysis certificate is unable to be obtained, the water supplier must arrange for a sample of the fluoridation chemical to be analysed, at a laboratory accredited by NATA for the analysis, to determine the level of any impurities.

MS 5.4.1.

• A daily quality control sample should be analysed by the fluoridation plant operator along with the mandatory daily samples of fluoridated water. This sample should be analysed using the same prescribed analysis as the routine samples. • A weekly quality control sample should be analysed by the reticulation system manager along with the analysis of the recommended weekly samples of fluoridated water. This sample should be analysed using the same prescribed analysis as the routine samples. • On 1 day each month the fluoridation plant operator must split a daily sample into 2 parts and analyse 1 part using a prescribed analysis. The other part must be forwarded to a laboratory that is NATA accredited for fluoride analysis, and the results of analysis obtained by the water supplier …

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     ‘The National Industrial Chemicals Notification and Assessment Scheme’ (NICNAS) and The ‘Office of Chemical Safety and Environmental’ are invalid Government agencies unless fluoride in its many forms, and its implications for human health and the environment are recognized and included with other chemicals…

The Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) is the regulatory body for therapeutic goods (including medicines, medical devices, gene technology, and blood products) in Australia. It is a Division of the Australian Department of Health and Ageing established under the Therapeutic Goods Act 1989 (Cth). The TGA is responsible for conducting assessment and monitoring activities to ensure that therapeutic goods available in Australia are of an acceptable standard and that access to therapeutic advances is in a timely manner. It would be better if the TGA controlled fluorides in the food and water rather than making fools of themselves trying to restrict and stop the use and sale of natural health products.

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“The TGA’s income is based entirely on fees and
charges paid by users of its services, namely
the Pharmaceutical Industry in Australia.”

→ THE TGA AND BOTTLED WATER ←

  → TGA – CODEX & THE END OF HEALTHY FOOD ? ←

Documents released under Section 11C of the Freedom of Information Act 1982 

The marketing of water fluoridation has used promotion by endorsement, intimidation, biased research, censorship, propaganda, cover up, suppression of dissent, and fraud similar to those of Lead [in paint and toys], Asbestos, DDT, Tobacco, Thalidomide, Dioxin and 245T. Two peer-reviewed studies, Neurotoxicology, December 2000; International Journal of Environmental Studies, September 1999, found an association between consumption of water containing hydrofluosilicic acid or sodium silicofluoride and HIGHER BLOOD LEAD LEVELS IN CHILDREN.
See our category on this web site below ↓ ↓

   ‘Lead Poisoning in Mount Isa and Fluoridation’

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The FLUORIDE CARTEL:
Big Industry, Big Pharma, Big Dental,
Big Media, Big Medical Research, Big Sugar,
Big Agribusiness, Big Money, Big Universities & Big Politics.
Driven by some big dentists with religious fervour,
sincerity and chemical ignorance.

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~ Dr. Geoff Pain ~

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 ” Ceasing Fluoridation is the honourable, clever and economic thing to do. ”

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The marketing of water fluoridation has used promotion by endorsement, intimidation, biased research, censorship, propaganda, cover up, suppression of dissent, and fraud similar to those of lead in paint, petrol and water pipes, Asbestos, DDT, Tobacco, Thalidomide, Dioxin, 245T, Agent Orange and Roundup. Two peer-reviewed studies, Neurotoxicology, December 2000; International Journal of Environmental Studies, September 1999, found an association between consumption of water containing hydrofluosilicic acid or sodium silicofluoride and
numerous diseases in animals and humans.

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[The use of company or product name(s) is for identification only,
and does not imply endorsement by us.]

-  The Independence of Cyberspace -

by John Perry Barlow

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PFAS, PFOS, PFOA Contamination – A Problem For Everyone

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Australian Defence was warned 30 years ago that the chemicals
in its firefighting foam should be handled as a toxic waste...

[ They are mostly used for regular fire fighting practice/training. ]

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“Stop trying to downplay the seriousness of this issue.
They are incredibly serious toxins, and it is a real
worry for those people living around them”.
- Mariann Lloyd-Smith,
National Toxics Network Senior Advisor

 

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It has rendered some farm land unusable, property
values have plummeted, and residents have
been unable to drink their bore water.

The bonding of two chemicals – being fluorine and carbon in 1940
seemed to be a huge break through for many new processes,
however the health risks were found some time later.
These products have been banned in 171 countries
though not yet banned in Australia. ?

2 Aug 2019

…Labor and the Greens have moved to force the Morrison government to
hand over its response to the parliamentary inquiry into toxic
firefighting foam contamination. It has been eight months
since Queensland MP Andrew Laming, who chaired
the inquiry, broke Liberal ranks making an
emotional speech in parliament calling
on the Coalition government to
compensate residents…

Fluorides are “Protected Pollutants” in Australia!
If the truth about this chemical had not been covered up
for so long the problems listed below may never have occurred.
Legislation is always years behind when the environment is involved.
Governments are slow to deal with hazardous chemicals
– far too slow for our environment…

Our Comment:

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How PFAS Contamination is Affecting Area Property Values

Kyle P. Konwinski  &  Aaron M. Phelps

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 In May of 2009, PFOS was added to Annex B of the

Stockholm Convention on Persistent Organic Pollutants

  Notice the ‘F’s. for Fluoride 


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Firefighting Foam Policy – Queensland Gov.

»→  FLUORIDE FREE FOAM IS AVAILABLE  ←«

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EDITORS COMMENT:
The RAAF once used harmless,
environmentally friendly, fermented blood

 and bone, and liquorice to make fire fighting foam.
It was also great to make the grass grow, I know, I used it!

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30 [+] Aust. Defence Bases Contaminated With (PFOA)

There appears to be more concern being shown to landholders
who have had their land contaminated by AFFF (PFOS)
than concern for the mental health and wellbeing
of the serving members who handled this
concentrated product…  ↓ ↓ ↓

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“… some studies suggest that almost every person on Earth
has them in their bloodstream, which gives some
indication of  The scale of the problem…”

Denis O’Carroll said this is important as where other contaminants 
might stay in water or soil, PFAS are extremely stable and can 
travel easily from water to soil to animals to fish to humans.

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18 Dec. 2018

The ‘F.’ Word, is OK in Europe 

The EU recognizes fluoride errors and
lowers recommendations dramatically.

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Six diseases linked to PFOA: US study finds

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Dr. Mariann Lloyd-Smith

The new levels issued by the EPA in the US are 0.07 parts per BILLION
for both PFOA and PFOS. Both chemicals have been linked
with a range of disorders, including thyroid issues,
pregnancy complications and high cholesterol.
EPA report also details possible connection between
PFOS and bladder, colon and prostate cancer.

HER MORE RECENT COMMENTS

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“National Toxics Network and International POPs Elimination
Network senior adviser Mariann Lloyd-Smith
 said the chemicals

– PFOS, PFOA or PFHxS – previously used in some firefighting foams were
toxic and bio-accumulative–building up in all living organisms including humans,
were intergenerational, being passed from mother to child and capable of long
range transport and thus found in the Arctic and Antarctic. ‘Most importantly,
they are so persistent, they have no way of breaking down so what is
released to the environment is with us for all time,’ she said.”

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prof-j-giesyFairfax Media can now reveal that Professor Giesy was accused
of covertly doing 3M’s bidding in a widespread international campaign
 to suppress academic research on the dangers of PFAS chemicals. 

PROF. ‘BRAGGED ABOUT BURYING BAD $CIENCE’ ON 3M CHEMICALS

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As of July 2019, EWG and Northeastern University have mapped out
712 PFAS contamination sites across 49 states in the U.S.

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 Water Research Australia 

‘…with an assumption that water accounts for 20% of total exposure.
Given that the two contaminants may occur together, and their
effects are similar, it is recommended that the combined
concentration in drinking water should not exceed
0.070 μg/L. [70 parts per trillion]…’

[ Issue 82 - July 2016 ]

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ITEM 1.

Plasma Perfluoroalkyl and Polyfluoroalkyl Substances Concentration
and Menstrual Cycle Characteristics in Preconception Women

Wei Zhou,1* Lulu Zhang,2,3* Chuanliang Tong,4 Fang Fang,1 Shasha Zhao,1 Ying Tian,1 Yexuan Tao,2,3 Jun Zhang1 and for the Shanghai Birth Cohort Study

Our study found that increased exposure to PFOA, PFOS, PFNA, and PFHxS was associated with higher odds of irregular and long menstrual cycle and lower risks of menorrhagia in women who plan to be pregnant. In contrast, women with higher levels of PFOA, PFNA, and PFHxS were more likely to have hypomenorrhea.

Full text » HERE ←« Important

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ITEM 2.

Zürich Statement on Future Actions on Per- 
and Polyfluoroalkyl Substances (PFASs)

  Not good bedtime reading!  

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FIRST FIREFIGHTING FOAM COMPENSATION RECIPIENT  ’Gratefully Relieved’

red-line-copyPer-and poly-fluoroalkyl substances (PFAS) are a group of man-made fluoride based chemicals that have been widely used since the 1950s, in household and industrial products that resist, oil, stains, heat, grease and water. This includes non-stick cookware, food packaging, stain protection applications to fabric, furniture and carpet, and firefighting foams. Since 1970, firefighting foams containing PFAS were used extensively in Australia and elsewhere due to their effectiveness in fighting liquid fuel fires. 

PFOA and PFOS are the best known members of a group of manmade chemicals known as per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances, or PFASs. Highly fluorinated chemicals are unrivalled in their utility because their carbon fluorine bond is nearly unbreakable under natural conditions. When chains of carbon-fluorine bonds are linked together, they form water- and oil-resistant coatings on clothing, carpets, and cookware that will not wash away, dissipate with extreme heat, or fade in sunlight over extended use.

The same basic carbon-fluorine chains can also create robust firefighting products able to withstand, and even extinguish, the blazes of scorching aircraft fires.  But the durability that make these chemicals useful also makes them a concern. They persist in the environment for thousands of years, affecting us and future generations as an everlasting legacy.

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“The Australian Federal Government should not use toxic
fire fighting foam.”  Research completed by US, lawyer -
- Isobel Roe - 26 Sep. 2016

The Australian Government is wasting time and money by failing to acknowledge US studies into a toxic foam chemical, a US lawyer who led a class action against the makers of the toxin has said.

The chemical perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA) was in a firefighting foam that has leeched into groundwater beneath at least 30 Australian Defence bases including the Oakey Aviation Base on the Darling Downs.

It has rendered some farm land unusable, property values have plummeted, and residents have been unable to drink their bore water.

The same chemical was contained in Teflon and found in a West Virginian Town Water Supply the late 1990s, sparking legal action against Teflon manufacturer DuPont, and eventually won a $US70 million settlement for almost 70,000 people who might have been exposed to the contaminated water.

Kentucky-based lawyer Robert Bilott brought the class action on behalf of the residents and said he had been watching Australia’s response to the growing contamination issue with interest.

“A lot of time and a lot of resources can be saved by the fact that a lot of this very complicated and expensive research has already been done,” Mr Bilott said.

“I think it would be important to take advantage of the data that already exists so it’s not a delayed response to folks who are drinking this.”

Six diseases linked to PFOA: US study finds

The Australian Defence Department maintains there is no strong links between PFOA and serious human health effects.

Queensland Health advice said adverse health effects had been found in animals but not in humans.[?]

But as part of the US class action, an independent scientific panel spent more than $US30 million studying the chemical and its human health effects.

“One of the things that was remarkable about it was they ended up getting blood data from 69,000 people in that community,” Mr Bilott said.

“They ended up concluding that there was six disease linked to drinking this chemical in your water for over a year and that was kidney cancer, testicular cancer, ulcerative colitis, thyroid disease, preeclampsia and high cholesterol.

“And that data is out there.”

Mr Bilott also raised concerns about Australia’s drinking guidelines for the chemical.

An independent review by a toxicologist released earlier this month found Australia should maintain its standards for the chemical, despite a decision by the United States Environment Protection Agency to dramatically lower what it considered safe.

“It’s the same chemical, it’s the same science and it’s the same knowledge, so I’m not quite sure why there would be any distinction,” Mr Bilott said.

A frequently asked questions document on the Defence Department website said the United States health study could not be used in Australia. [?]

“The findings of this health study could have been impacted by many location- and population-specific factors [for example, routes of exposure, background conditions and lifestyle factors], which cannot necessarily be translated to the Oakey community,” the document read.

“In addition, many factors can influence a person’s health and therefore it is challenging to link a person’s health issue unequivocally to PFOS [perfluorooctane sulfonate] and PFOA exposure.”

The Federal Government is undertaking its own epidemiological study of the human health effects of the PFOA chemical. [?]

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The New Asbestos!

ABC News-Impacts of PFOS and PFOA

     PROBLEMS WITH AUSTRALIAN MILITARY FIRE FIGHTING CHEMICALS:
It was revealed in September 2015

The chemicals had leaked from Williamtown Air Force base into ground and surfacewater, prompting bans on bore water and closing fishing grounds. “Stop trying to downplay the seriousness of this issue. They are incredibly serious toxins, and it is a real worry for those people living around them.-”
Mariann Lloyd-Smith, National Toxics Network senior advisor. – The New South Wales

Environment Protection Authority (EPA) has started a statewide investigation into the historical use of the firefighting foam.

The Unfolding Scandal of  Toxic Water in Australian Communities:


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Some say this is the worst pollution in Australia’s history,
but all the Australian
media, except »→  ABC TV  ’Four Corners’  ←« are ignoring it !

↑ WATCH ↑

The “Protected Pollutant”  - The ‘FLUORIDE’ word was NOT mentioned by the ABC ?  The Federal Government could face compensation claims across New South Wales, Queensland and the Northern Territory, after the Department of Defence admitted it was slow to warn people about groundwater contamination from Army Air Bases.

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    A lawyer leading the class action in the southern Queensland town of Oakey said he would soon head to the NT town of Katherine to speak to locals about a joint lawsuit there in the wake of this week’s revelations on the ABC’s Four Corners program.
On the program, a Defence official admitted they should have issued warnings three years earlier about toxic firefighting foam pollution from Army bases. The department said the cost to taxpayers to clean up the problem nationwide would likely amount to hundreds of millions of dollars.

About 500 people are part of a class action in Oakey, where the toxic compounds PFOS and PFOA [ which contain fluoride ] have spread into groundwater and soil on surrounding properties.
In NSW, residents near the RAAF Williamtown base launched their 
own class action last year.

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Fluorides are “Protected Pollutants”
The use of the “F” word is censored in
the Australian media. Fluorides can only
be refer to in glowing terms and associated
with “dental health” ! ! !

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Professor Nicholas Buckley

“Dragged” into this research project-

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He has been handed a Poisoned Chalice.
We all wish him well here at
‘Fluoridation Queensland’ – Previously known as:
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We do not envy him his job. He will have
interference from the dental lobby,
or some resistance. Fluoride
is their sacred cow !

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EPA Victoria – April 2019

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Draft of Version 2 of the PFAS
National Environmental Management Plan

“The environmental and potential human health impacts
from exposure to a group of manufactured chemicals
 known as PFAS (per-and poly-fluoroalkyl substances) 
are of increasing concern worldwide.”
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Note: The ‘F’ word – Fluoride, is not mentioned? ]

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MORE HERE

…..At least 4,700 PFAS variants are ↑ available on the global market.

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Lawsuit Reveals How Paid Expert Helped 3M 
“Command the Science” on Dangerous Chemicals

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THE PFOA MOLECULE DOSE NOT DEGRADE OVER TIME

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NOTICE ALL THE ‘Fs’ ↑ ↑ ↑  & here ↓  ↓  ↓

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NOTICE ALL THE ‘fluoro’s  here ↓  ↓  ↓

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Full news paper clipping  » HERE

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November 2017
‘Biological Cleavage of the C–P Bond in
Perfluoroalkyl Phosphinic Acids in
Male Sprague-Dawley Rats and
the Formation of Persistent
and Reactive Metabolites’
→  HERE  

Spanish Research - Nov 2017 

Exposure to Perfluoroalkyl Substances and Metabolic Outcomes in Pregnant Women:
Evidence from the Spanish INMA Birth Cohorts

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Full Report  ⇒ HERE

Problems with firefighting foam Indiana USA

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PROBLEMS WITH FIRE RETARDANTS

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RELATED STORY: Public meeting over Williamtown contamination incident

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A toxic chemicals campaigner says it is misleading to claim the health impacts of firefighting foam at the centre of the Williamtown water contamination are not yet understood.

The chemicals, PFOS and PFOA, have also been discovered at two Fire and Rescue NSW training bases in Sydney’s west and in the Illawarra.

Perfluorooctane sulfonate (PFOS) and perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA) are man-made chemicals belonging to the group known as perfluorinated chemicals (PFCs).

It was revealed in September 2015 the chemicals had leaked from Williamtown Air Force base into ground and surface water, prompting bans on bore water and closing fishing grounds.

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“Stop trying to downplay the seriousness of this issue. They are incredibly serious toxins, and it is a real worry for those people living around them”.

- Mariann Lloyd-Smith, National Toxics Network Senior Advisor

 Environment Protection Authority (EPA) has started a statewide investigation into the historical use of the firefighting foam.

The EPA said its investigation into PFOS and PFOA will focus on sites where the chemicals may have been used in large quantities including airports, firefighting training facilities and industrial sites.

In a statement last month, Fire and Rescue NSW (FRNSW) said international research was yet to fully understand the ecological impacts, if any, and there was “no proven direct link to any adverse health effects”.

Commissioner Greg Mullins said FRNSW withdrew the use of these foams for both firefighting and training progressively until they were fully eliminated in 2007 as information emerged on possible hazards associated with PFCs.

But National Toxics Network senior advisor Mariann Lloyd-Smith said there was a wealth of evidence.

“To say that we don’t fully understand or there’s not a direct proven link is misleading,” she said.

“One can only wonder if it’s an attempt to protect their liability.

“People need to know these are incredibly serious toxins.

“These are chemicals that we really need to address quickly, with as much precaution as we possibly can to protect humans and, of course, the wildlife and the environment.”

Dr Lloyd-Smith is urging the Fire and Rescue NSW to stop downplaying the impacts of the firefighting foam.

She said she had a message for the Commissioner Greg Mullins.

“Stop trying to downplay the seriousness of this issue,” she said.

“They are incredibly serious toxins, and it is a real worry for those people living around them.

“Warn the population, start working out how you’re going to be able to compensate people, start protecting your population, which is really the job,” Dr Lloyd-Smith said.

Staff and community highest priority, Commissioner said

In a statement on Thursday, FRNSW said it “is consulting with the Department of Health and the Fire Brigade Employees Union whilst taking a cautious, measured approach”.

“The safety of our staff and the community are our highest priority,” Commissioner Mullins said.

“Together with the EPA we have arranged for more comprehensive testing, with results expected to take several more weeks.

“FRNSW will work with a range of other agencies including local councils, water authorities, Department of Health, and NSW EPA to ensure any potential risk of PFC contamination outside of the training sites is identified and limited.

“We will act immediately on any expert advice concerning health or environmental impacts,” he said.

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PFOAs And Newborns

       In 2007, the shocking results of a study conducted at the John Hopkin’s Medical Centre
(Bethesda, MD) showed that levels of the toxic PFOA were found in 100%
of a sample of almost 300 newborns, delivered at the hospital.

Samples of umbilical chord blood were also shown to contain varying levels of PFOS.
Asians (6 ng/ml) had the highest concentration, followed by Blacks (5.1 ng/ml)
and Whites (4.2 ng/ml).
Males babies had higher PFOS and PFOA than females.

Obese and underweight mothers had slightly higher concentrations than
women of normal weight.

Other studies have found that some of the highest levels of
PFOA and PFOS have been in children.

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PFAS Treatment & Management

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FLUORIDE FOAM SPILLED AT BRISBANE AIRPORT ENTERS RIVER

PFOS & PFOA In The Environment

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EXTRACT FROM:

Contamination of Australian Defence Force Facilities and other
Commonwealth, State and Territory Sites in Australia  – Submission 34
Submission to the Senate Inquiry into AFFF Contamination at RAAF Base Williamtown

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…In relation to pollution and contamination, the environmental policy developed at this time (2001-2003) recognised there was a 200-year legacy of contaminated sites on and off the Defence estate. Literally thousands of instances of legacy contamination were already known to exist at Defence sites (many of which dated from WWII) – including contamination arising from ordnance use (conventional and chemical), landfills and burial pits, fuel leaks, chemicals (including cocktails of hydrocarbon solvents), metals – including mercury, and even radioactive materials. In this context, it was not the case that there was a shortage of issues that needed to be dealt with – the risk posed by fugitive AFFF was one of the many being considered at the time.

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During 2002 I had several conversations and received reports from my regional environmental colleagues and other personnel located at Defence sites, about fish-kills that had been observed following the accidental, incidental or deliberate release of fire fighting foam into aquatic environments.
Testing and training practices and/or maintenance of critical fire fighting equipment would occur routinely at many Defence sites, often as part of a daily, weekly or periodic routine. This equipment included the familiar aviation fire trucks, as well as the automated fire protection systems built into aircraft hangars.
At that time these reports related to RAAF Base Richmond and RAAF Base Amberley where I recall fish kills had been observed, on occasions, in Rickebys Creek (Richmond) and Warrill Creek (Amberley), that adjoin these sites…
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PFOS and PFOA are increasingly being phased out of modern foams.
Concentrations in human blood appear to be decreasing in the 
US, although they are still rising in China. Today they remain
significant residual contaminants at many sites globally,
for example, at many of the world’s 49,000 airports
including 450 civilian and military
airports in Australia
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Fluoridation and Scientific Myopia

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Just get rid of the non-stick fry pan...

 Pet Birds and Teflon Poisoning

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PFAS – Katherine Times

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TGA POISONS STANDARD 2009 (fluoride)

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 “Fluoride is not essential for human growth and development”
- The European Commission  [SCHER 2011]

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The main purpose of this page is to demonstrate
that fluorides ARE pharmacological chemicals,
and dangerous, contrary to statements by
some members of the dental industry.

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WARNING STATEMENTS AND GENERAL SAFETY DIRECTIONS FOR POISONS 

Warning Statements and Safety Directions

It is the responsibility of the manufacturer, packer and supplier of a drug or poison to ensure that the purchaser or user of a product is given sufficient information to be able to use it correctly and safely.

Under poisons legislation, scheduled substances, which may be harmful to the user, must be labelled with appropriate warning statements and/or safety directions. The selection of warning statements and safety directions will depend on the formulation of the product, and the use for which it is sold or supplied …

 FULL ORIGINAL TEXT 

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 The TGA requires ALL medications come supplied with a published
full disclosure of ALL known side effects.

This is NOT being done by the water suppliers using fluorides,
a legally recognised medication
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Fluoridation is Mass Medication,
 New Zealand Supreme Court Rules

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PFAS, PFOS, PFOA – A Fluoride Contamination Problem For Everyone

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Medical Monopoly

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 See also  

MSDS-Sodium Fluoride and Sodium Fluorosilicate Powder +

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Michael Foley’s Fluoride Fan Club +

” Dr Michael Foley again went quiet when the
issue of  daily fluoride dosage came up.”

Margaret Strelow Rocky. Mayor  Dr Foley would do well to do a little research and read comments made by councillors themselves before he makes public statements about the reason why councillors – after considering both sides of the argument – voted against fluoride in the water,” Cr Strelow said.

“His ill-informed reactionary comments are an example of the type of behaviour which has contributed to this issue being such an emotive one within the broader community. I would have expected better from a man in his position.”

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Pro-fluoridationist Dr. Foley is blinded by a diabolical ideology, which does not allow him to draw rational conclusions. (Recent debate Mackay – (Sept. 2016)
His ideology is hostile to science, logic and history. His recent claim that fluoride does no harm to the thyroid gland is a typical response when he is out of his depth in fluoridated water. - See below ↓

Iodine is a halogen.
The halogens are a series of non-metal elemants:

                    Fluorine, F
                    Chlorine, Cl
                    Bromine, Br
                    Iodine, I 
                    Astatine, At

The problem is that fluoride is a ‘bully‘. Any time an atom of fluoride
and an atom of any other halogen are in the same vicinity, the
fluoride will displace the other halogen and take its place.
      - Dr. Terry Tennant, MD, MD(H), PSc.,D

This is universal, probably throughout time and most likely
throughout the cosmos. We realise that dentists will see
this as yet another threat to their constant claims of
fluoridation’s safety, but to claim otherwise
is to fly in the face of true science.

See also the → Periodic Table of the Elements

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Sorry Mr. Foley, fluorides DO cause delayed
eruption of teeth 
in animals and humans.

See extracts below – page 129. If  you do not know this basic,
we all think you should consider dropping your title of doctor.

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extract sheep delayed eruptionMichael Foley claims on delayed eruption are NOT valid -

See also HERE and HERE and HERE and HERE

Delayed Eruption France 1999

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See Queensland Government Research on Sheep:
Go to page 129 – Delayed Eruption, – book (A) below 

  Fluorosis Merino Sheep Queensland (a) (A)

 Fluorosis Merino Sheep Queensland (B) (B)

  Fluorosis Merino Sheep Queensland (c) (C)

Other animals not happy about Fluoride → HERE

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Fluoride and Hypothyroidism

- ADVANCES IN FLUORIDE RESEARCH -

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Most of the so-called ‘conspiracy theory’ talk comes from the pro-fluoridation
lobby, 
not anti
-fluoridation campaigners concerned with presenting
the ethical and 
scientific case against fluoridation.

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EPA Scientist Blasts EPA’s Safe Drinking Water Standard for Fluoride

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Fluoride & Plants
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 →» When Gerry Adams And Ian Paisley Worked Together  «←

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Fluorine has NO known metabolic role in mammals in fact 
a few plants synthesize organofluorine poisons that deter herbivores.

M. Foley Sept. 2016

Dear Michael, it may time to re-read The Code of Ethics of
The International Association for Dental Research (IADR)
of which you are a member!

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Sir Edward Dunlop spoke out against fluoridation!

 Anti-Fluoride Groups were called ‘lunatic, conspiracy, fringe’
by Michael Foley – Brisbane Courier Mail – 2 Oct 2016.
We may be lunatics, but we are not fringe – very
few countries still fluoridate their water.

Many Queensland Shires, voters, whole nations, scientist, including
Nobel Prize Winners  may not be impressed by his angry outbursts.

TGA POISONS STANDARD 2009 (fluoride)

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“First do no harm.”

“primum nil nocere.”

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This is NOT about fluoride but it has legal implication for Michael Foley:
  Mass Action of Liability  

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“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
 Socrates

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  ADVANCES IN FLUORIDE RESEARCH  

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Merilyn Haines is absolutely correct when she says that most Australian doctors know very little about the adverse health effects of fluoride. I have skeletal fluorosis, and am fluoride sensitive, with many symptoms. For years I tried to find a doctor who could help me, but they couldn’t help. Eventually I figured out for myself that the problem was fluoride, mainly from fluoridated water. By that stage I had such severe joint problems that I could barely do the most basic things required to look after myself, and I am not old. Eight years later, most of my symptoms have disappeared or greatly improved, but even though there has been great improvement with my joints my activity is still severely restricted. Skeletal fluorosis can be permanent if it progresses too far. Michael Foley is a shameless hypocrite and liar, who should be in jail. If he wants to see poor quality research, he need only look at that which he and his fellow fluoridationists rely on. If anyone wants more information, they could start with the Fluoride Action Network website, Declan Waugh’s work, the journal Fluoride, and the 2006 US National Research Council report on fluoride in drinking water. There are also some good Australian websites.

 Posted by: Joe Bloggs | 12 March 2013 at 02:54 AM

 If in doubt leave it out! Good on you Merylin Hines, I’m with you 100%. I was always made to believe that cavaties where caused by sugary foods? Let’s ban companys like Coca cola from destroying our communities teeth? But typical of todays model of medicine we deny food and nutrition and run around looking for the next magical elixer to market and sell. I don’t want chemicals added to my water thankyou, yet I am denied this simple human right as long as I live in a flurodated region.

 Posted by: Matthew 12 March 2013 at 09:41 AM

 The Australian Constitution is there to limit the powers the re-representatives (not nannies) excise over we the people. We’ve never at Referendum approved of this industrial waste mass medication. I’m a big boy now and my children know how to use a tooth brush. Take that waste product out of the municipal drinking water until such a time as we the people in the majority ask for it via Referendum.

 Posted by: Rodney Stevens | 12 March 2013 at 10:41 AM

 Dr Michael Foley again went quiet when the issue of daily fluoride dosage came up. Thing is, the whole topic should be mute as Dr Michael Foley is not my doctor. ABC, when did it become legal for governments and dentists to force dosages on Australians? Permission has never been given thus why the medical indemnity protection is in place to protect those like Dr Michael Foley. Why do they need protection from something they say is safe? Doctors used to indorse smoking as well. Dr Michael Foley, you are not my doctor. Dr Michael Foley, you are not my nanny. 95% of world agree with me.

 Posted by: Rodney Stevens | 12 March 2013 at 11:51 AM

 I don’t want fluoride in my water – that should be enough!

 Why should I have it when I don’t want it and don’t need it – or
is Queensland Health the new unelected dictatorship of Queensland?

 Posted by: Colin Bishop | 12 March 2013 at 12:02 PM

 No I do not want fluoride in the water…natural water full of healthy minerals, flows constantly beneathe the ground, for us all to drink.

However, if we keep polluting the natural water, via coal seam gas and chemicals, then heaven help us….but then again, maybe it is already helping us, with all the floods that Queensland has recently experienced….maybe these floods are flushing out these toxic chemicals from our water supplies. I guess we humans had better get over and on with the fact, that nature overides nurture, every time, regards.

 Posted by: Rev. Michelle De La Rente | 12 March 2013 at 12:07 PM

 Well Foley should have asked to provide the study done by the NHMRC and TGA CDC and the FDA ….NONE done and their push to fluoridate is flawed. The enviromental problems:

As for litigation one needs to look back at Germany and damage done 100 rears ago.
Approximately 17 million Litres of poison water is released into the environment annually.
This run off also effects the Great Barrier Reef via rivers.

 *Economically wasteful..

100% water is fluoridated ..
40% lost in leaks before you get it.
40% into the environment where it is not supposed to go
of the 60% left 7/8 used by industry and farmers
the 1/8 left that comes in to your house you drink less than 1% of it.
You water the lawn, flush the toilet, take baths you do all sorts of things
with but you are not drinking it..

Your drinking less than 1% of the 1% and if you look at the number of
children with a so called tooth problems it is about 3% of the population.
We now have 3% of population drinking of the 3% of 1% of 1/8 of 60%
of all the water you bothered to fluoridate, so is this the way to
deliver an illegal medication to those who don’t drink the water supply
in the first place ???.

 Posted by: | 12 March 2013 at 01:22 PM

 It’s pretty rich of Merilyn Haines to say that calling fluoride natural is “misleading”.
I can count a number of times she can be considered misleading;

 - “industrial waste”: table salt is always table salt no matter if it’s from a salt lake or urea.

– “600 mg of lead”: that is 0.6% of the fluoride mix. When diluted down to 1 part per million, this lead is 6 parts per billion!- pointing to these trace chemicals is in itself misleading, when the argument is about fluoride.
– She focuses on the results of adult tooth decay in children (teeth without much time to have developed tooth decay) as opposed to baby teeth.- She misrepresents the 2007 NSW Dental Health Survey, which concluded far less fluorosis and a noted difference in tooth decay between fluoridated and non-fluoridated regions.
– She doesn’t name the study, but previously when she talks about osteosarcoma, she has been referring to Bassin et al (2006). The researchers behind this study couldn’t replicate the appearance of osteosarcoma and stressed caution in drawing the relationship.

 Dr Foley did a great job, but it made no difference to her position regardless how often he corrected her.

 I’ve been following this fluoridation matter for a few months now and I am amazing by how they interact with the science. For instance the 2007 NSW survey or the Bassin paper; neither support their position and yet, even when this is brought to their attention, they continue to use them as though the papers do.

 Posted by: Moth | 12 March 2013 at 03:45 PM

 Wow this is a great debate from ABC regarding Fluoride in drinking water. It provides views from both sides of the argument and clearly highlights the major difference, one side is based on ideology, the other on research and facts.

 If you have any doubts or questions regarding the Fluoride debate, take the time and listen.

 It is really worth it.

 Posted by: kate | 12 March 2013 at 04:37 PM

 Marilyn Haines, made very valid points. Take fluoride out of the water supply. The best way is to prevent tooth decay is to apply it directly to the teeth. Michael Foley tried to discredit her but what he did not say that no amount of water will save baby teeth from the affect of dinking sugar laden juice etc. and being too young to clean their teeth before they go to sleep.

 Posted by: V McVety | 13 March 2013 at 11:42 AM

Fluorosis is caused by an intake of too much fluoride over a period of time, from a various of sources including tap water. Duhh?? Great debate Merilyn Haines… Too bad I couldn’t listen to it all, it was cut and inaccessible just after you mentioned your sister.. Shame.

 Posted by: Britz | 13 March 2013 at 12:25 PM

 Dr Michael Foley is just another classic example of why we, as a Nation, are in such a poor state of Health ..

Shame on you Dr Foley .. Your ignorance is “bliss”
Posted by: Glenn Williams | 14 March 2013 at 07:48 AM

 What a great debate.

Foley is yet another blind, myopic, ignorant and myopic ego bound “professional” who as a dentist would use DISTILLED WATER to clean his dental equipment (search [ autoclave ].

In hearing this recording, now many times, I personally can see at least 20 mistakes that Foley makes. He would not debate me as he would lose.
I would really like to see a record of where Dr. Foley has received his income over time, if or not he has accepted directly or indirectly any payments, inducements or ‘favors’ in any form from any associated with the HUGE fluoride proponents.
This is simple:
Do not fluoridate drinking water – let people decide. This arrogance of nanny state forced medication is a simple debate.

     Posted by: Phillip | 30 December 2013 at 12:01 PM

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Published Research Findings – Why Most Are False

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Fluoridation Finished in Israel – Final

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Links To Fluoridation Webs Around The World

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‘Silent Spring’ which has sold more than two million copies,
made a powerful case for the idea that if humankind
poisoned nature, nature would in
turn poison humankind!

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